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03/13/2015 03:30 PM Senate RESOURCES

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03:32:10 PM Presentation: Alaska's Oil and Gas Competitiveness Report 2015
04:04:34 PM Adjourn
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                    ALASKA STATE LEGISLATURE                                                                                  
              SENATE RESOURCES STANDING COMMITTEE                                                                             
                         March 13, 2015                                                                                         
                           3:31 p.m.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
MEMBERS PRESENT                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Senator Cathy Giessel, Chair                                                                                                    
Senator Mia Costello, Vice Chair                                                                                                
Senator John Coghill                                                                                                            
Senator Peter Micciche                                                                                                          
Senator Bill Stoltze                                                                                                            
Senator Bill Wielechowski                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
MEMBERS ABSENT                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Senator Bert Stedman                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
COMMITTEE CALENDAR                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
PRESENTATION: ALASKA'S OIL AND GAS COMPETITIVENESS REPORT 2015                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
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WITNESS REGISTER                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
THOMAS HENDRIX, JR., Chair                                                                                                      
Alaska Oil and Gas Competitiveness Review Board (OGCRB) and                                                                     
Vice President, Oil & Gas                                                                                                       
Carlile Transportation Systems, Inc.                                                                                            
Palmer, Alaska                                                                                                                
POSITION    STATEMENT:   Presented    Alaska's   Oil    and   Gas                                                             
Competitiveness Report 2015.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
JERRY BURNETT, Deputy Commissioner                                                                                              
Department of Revenue                                                                                                           
Juneau, Alaska                                                                                                                
POSITION STATEMENT: Presented information related to the report                                                               
on Alaska's Oil and Gas Competitiveness.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
ACTION NARRATIVE                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
3:31:32 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR  CATHY   GIESSEL  called  the  Senate   Resources  Standing                                                             
Committee meeting  to order at 3:31  p.m. Present at the  call to                                                               
order  were Senators  Costello,  Coghill, Wielechowski,  Stoltze,                                                               
and Chair Giessel. She noted that Senator Stedman was excused.                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
^PRESENTATION: Alaska's Oil and Gas Competitiveness Report 2015                                                                 
 PRESENTATION: Alaska's Oil and Gas Competitiveness Report 2015                                                             
                                                                                                                                
3:32:10 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR  GIESSEL announced  a report  from the  Alaska Oil  and Gas                                                               
Competitiveness Review Board.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
3:33:01 PM                                                                                                                    
THOMAS HENDRIX,  JR., Chair, Alaska  Oil and  Gas Competitiveness                                                               
Review  Board (OGCRB),  and Vice  President, Oil  & Gas,  Carlile                                                               
Transportation Systems, Inc.,  Palmer, Alaska, presented Alaska's                                                               
Oil  and  Gas  Competitiveness   Report  2015.  He  provided  his                                                               
background that he said suits him well for being on this board.                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
3:33:49 PM                                                                                                                    
JERRY BURNETT, Deputy Commissioner,  Department of Revenue (DOR),                                                               
introduced himself.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
MR.  HENDRIX  noted  their  work did  not  support  the  required                                                               
statutory  requirements of  the board.  The factors  that brought                                                               
that about  was that  the first  board meeting  was very  late in                                                               
getting  started, there  had been  an  administrative change  and                                                               
several new  board members came  on board,  but they have  had 10                                                               
subsequent  board   meetings  since  then,  so   they  have  been                                                               
diligent.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
3:35:25 PM                                                                                                                    
MR. HENDRIX explained  that the board was formed as  a part of SB
21  and  was  created  to establish  and  maintain  salient  data                                                               
regarding oil  and gas  exploration, development,  and production                                                               
and  to  advise the  Alaska  Legislature  on the  state's  fiscal                                                               
system, labor  pool, and regulatory competitiveness.  The statute                                                               
mandates  that  the  board  give  recommendations  on  or  before                                                               
December  31,  2015, but  there  are  no recommendations  in  the                                                               
report. They  have compiled the data  they feel it will  get them                                                               
in delivering the board's work.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
He described that the board is made up of:                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Two public members:                                                                                                             
-Joey Merrick who is a  business manager and secretary for Alaska                                                               
Laborers Local 341                                                                                                              
-Rodney Brown who is the business manager for the UAA Local 375)                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Three administration department heads:                                                                                          
-Department of Revenue Commissioner Randall Hoffbeck                                                                            
-Kristin Ryan  who is Spill  Prevention and  Response Coordinator                                                               
at the Department of Environmental Conservation (DEC)                                                                           
-Mark Myers who is Department of Natural Resources commissioner                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
One commissioner:                                                                                                               
-Alaska Oil and Gas Conservation Commissioner Gallagher                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Three oil and gas subject matter experts:                                                                                       
-Petroleum Engineer, Pete Stokes with Petrochemical Resources                                                                   
-Geologist, Curt Freeman, President, Avalon Development                                                                         
-CPA, Tom Malone, private citizen                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Two industry trade group representatives:                                                                                       
-Thomas Hendrix, Alaska Support Industry Alliance                                                                               
-Kara Moriarty, Chair, Alaska Oil and Gas Association (AOGA)                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR. HENDRIX  invited Mr.  Burnett to  talk about  how the  DOR is                                                               
handling staffing and support for their efforts.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
3:38:35 PM                                                                                                                    
MR. BURNETT related  that the DOR fiscal note  had enough funding                                                               
for board administrative help and  travel. A special assistant to                                                               
the  commissioner works  closely with  the board  in writing  the                                                               
report and  handling the meetings.  Tim Ryherd, a  DOR Commercial                                                               
Analyst,  provided  technical support,  but  due  to changing  of                                                               
administrations and the late start,  an RFP was not funded (about                                                               
$300,000) but it is still  needed. Receipt of funding will affect                                                               
the length of time it takes the board to do its work.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
MR.  HENDRIX's next  slide listed  Alaska's resource  development                                                               
peer groups  or its  competition, all  located in  North America,                                                               
Europe,  Pacific Regions,  and in  the Arctic.  All jurisdictions                                                               
had  concessional type  fiscal  arrangements,  tax and  royalties                                                               
similar to  Alaska, have similar  sized reserves  in undiscovered                                                               
resource potential and have a  history of significant hydrocarbon                                                               
production.   They  are:   Alaska,   California,  North   Dakota,                                                               
Oklahoma,  Texas,  U.S. Gulf  of  Mexico  OCS, U.S.  Alaska  OCS,                                                               
Alberta,   Canada-Northwest  Territories,   Canada-Beaufort  Sea,                                                               
Australia, Norway and the United Kingdom.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
He said this  list came from work the state  had already done and                                                               
all of  the departments had  been very helpful in  gathering data                                                               
assimilated into a report.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
3:42:04 PM                                                                                                                    
MR.  HENDRIX showed  a graph  depicting  peer resource  potential                                                               
indicating  that  Alaska  has about  one-third  of  the  nation's                                                               
reserves.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
He explained  that he  broke down Alaska's  land and  lease sales                                                               
into  three  sections: federal  lands,  private  lands and  state                                                               
lands. Federal lands  (61 percent) are vast and  locked up; state                                                               
lands (27  percent) have  more potential  for development  in the                                                               
short  term and  Alaska has  more consistent  reliable lease/sale                                                               
programs than  the federal government. Private  land (12 percent)                                                               
is the smallest offering, contrary to many of its peers.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
3:43:53 PM                                                                                                                    
MR.  HENDRIX showed  the effects  of  passing SB  21 on  drilling                                                               
activity in Alaska on an  AOGCC slide of total drilling including                                                               
workover rigs  and water wells  for disposal and noted  that this                                                               
measurement is  different than  the next  Baker Hughes'  slide of                                                               
drilling  rig activity.  He explained  that the  activity doesn't                                                               
show the  boom and  bust cycles  to the degree  that one  sees in                                                               
some peer  groups, like  North Dakota and  Texas, where  the rigs                                                               
are immediately  laid. In Alaska,  the number of  active drilling                                                               
rigs  is pretty  consistent, but  it could  be improved,  and the                                                               
board  might  find that  Alaska  might  be  a  good place  to  do                                                               
business during low oil prices.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
3:46:12 PM                                                                                                                    
MR. HENDRIX described the current  North Slope infrastructure and                                                               
the challenges it  has. He spoke of the  excellent maintenance of                                                               
the Dalton  Highway, the "road  to resources," but he  added that                                                               
the board  will need to examine  access to resources in  terms of                                                               
ports,  bridges,  and  roads  in  order for  the  state  to  stay                                                               
competitive.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
He  showed a  map of  infrastructure in  the Cook  Inlet and  six                                                               
Frontier  Basins.  Cook Inlet  has  34  fields all  connected  to                                                               
infrastructure  going to  oil and  gas processing  facilities; he                                                               
said that  Kenai is  booming right now.  The six  Frontier Basins                                                               
include  areas around  Fairbanks, Glennallen,  Kotzebue, Emmonak,                                                               
Egegik, and  Port Mueller. They  are harder  to get to,  but some                                                               
activity is being seen in the Fairbanks area.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
3:49:56 PM                                                                                                                    
MR. HENDRIX  said in order  for Alaska  to be competitive  in the                                                               
oil  and  gas  industry,  trained  and  available  workforce  are                                                               
priorities. He said they will  develop a measurable metric to use                                                               
in  looking  at  what  plans  are out  there  to  have  a  robust                                                               
workforce  for. He  pointed out  that  two private  folks on  the                                                               
board  are representatives  of labor  and the  study of  labor is                                                               
going to be a key piece of the research the board will do.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
He  introduced the  regulatory  and  permitting structure  slide,                                                               
another key issue that keeps  popping up. There is no measurement                                                               
to tell  the board  how difficult  it is to  deal with  the state                                                               
when it  comes to getting  permits, but  every yellow box  on the                                                               
slide is  something that could  effectively be changed  or fixed.                                                               
The process  should be simple and  effective and one that  is not                                                               
costly to the producers.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
3:52:55 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR MICCICHE joined the committee.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
MR.  HENDRIX  showed  a  slide  depicting  the  large  number  of                                                               
permitting requirements.  The next  slide described  Alaska's oil                                                               
and  gas  fiscal  system  in   2014  and  showed  the  four  main                                                               
components  that  generate  state  revenue. It  didn't  show  the                                                               
federal  and  local taxes  generated  from  production. His  next                                                               
slide was  not meant  as a comparison,  but showed  the petroleum                                                               
fiscal  regimes   of  peer  groups.  For   instance,  Norway  and                                                               
Australia in  deep water  fiscal regimes have  high taxes  but no                                                               
royalty.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
3:55:34 PM                                                                                                                    
MR.  HENDRIX  explained  that  the  RFP  mentioned  earlier  will                                                               
require  $300,000 to  commission a  third-party study.  The study                                                               
has been scoped  to help the board come  up with recommendations.                                                               
He said the board is strong and has been working hard.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
3:57:14 PM                                                                                                                    
MR. BURNETT  added that  the draft  RFP was  not included  in the                                                               
budget  request  because  of  the lateness  of  the  first  board                                                               
meeting. If the  funding comes through they could get  the RFP on                                                               
the street. It  was discussed with the governor and  the board is                                                               
trying  to   make  sure  that   there  is  a   publically  funded                                                               
independent look rather than coming from any one industry group.                                                                
                                                                                                                                
MR. HENDRIX  said if the  board does  not receive the  funding it                                                               
can't deliver  the required  report that  is already  late. After                                                               
the  December 2015  report the  next one  is due  on January  15,                                                               
2017. Should they  not be funded and go through  an almost entire                                                               
year delay,  legislation will be  needed to change  the deadlines                                                               
for 2017 and 2021.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
4:00:33 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR MICCICHE asked  if there is a reason  they wouldn't issue                                                               
the RFP  just to have  a better  understanding of what  the study                                                               
costs.                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
MR. HENDRIX  said he  was not  versed in  state protocol,  but he                                                               
thought they would  put out an RFP  and ask for a  price of doing                                                               
it. Then  he found out  that meeting the state's  protocols meant                                                               
writing it the way it is.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
MR. BURNETT said the board  could write a request for information                                                               
(RFI), but the board was confident  that the $300,000 is close to                                                               
the cost having done studies over  the years. It would be limited                                                               
to up to $300,000 and be done on a bid basis.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
4:02:22 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR  STOLTZE said  the trend  has been  knowing how  much the                                                               
state has sort of sets the price  and asked if they could do some                                                               
fishing before putting all the gear together.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MR. HENDRIX said they could do  "fishing," but want to be able to                                                               
execute on a contract.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
MR.  HENDRIX  thanked   the  committee  for  its   time  and  the                                                               
Department of  Revenue, the Department of  Natural Resources, the                                                               
Department  of Labor  and  Workforce  Development, Department  of                                                               
Transportation   and  Public   Facilities,   the  Department   of                                                               
Environmental   Conservation  and   the   Alaska   Oil  and   Gas                                                               
Conservation Commission for their help on the report.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
4:03:57 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR GIESSEL  said it  is a  formidable undertaking  and thanked                                                               
Mr. Hendrix for taking it on.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
4:04:34 PM                                                                                                                    
There  being  nothing  further  to  come  before  the  committee,                                                               
Chair Giessel  adjourned the  Senate Resource  Standing Committee                                                               
at 4:04 p.m.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                

Document Name Date/Time Subjects
Alaskas Oil and Gas Competitiveness Report 2015 Presentation.pdf SRES 3/13/2015 3:30:00 PM
Alaska's Oil and Gas Competitiveness Report 2015.pdf SRES 3/13/2015 3:30:00 PM
OGCRB RFP Final Drafted Version 2-25-15.pdf SRES 3/13/2015 3:30:00 PM